Rolfo Ako si ustasa tebi je to sigurno ok medjutim normalnim ljudima to je neprimjereno kao i cetnistvo

Hrvstska ima ozbiljan problem, jer je stvoren blagonakon milje prema nacističkoj ( piši ustaškoj) prošlosti. Srbija je još više "napredovala" izjednačavajući četnike i partizane i sada se kao zgražavamo otkuda ovo u Hrvatskoj. OVO SE RADILO POGREŠNO RADI NAVODNE "POMIRBE - POMIRENJA" NARODA.UNUTAR ISTOG NACIONALNOG KORPUSA.

najjace mi je kad neko sa nadomkom "chedo" i ko je deklarisani fasist "osudjuje" ko fol nekakve fasiste ali samo zato sto nisu iz njegovog tora

GDJE CES, CRNI?

Neka je sa srecom @BackInBlack! Neces se pokajati!

Hrvstska ima ozbiljan problem, jer je stvoren blagonakon milje prema nacističkoj ( piši ustaškoj) prošlosti. Srbija je još više "napredovala" izjednačavajući četnike i partizane i sada se kao zgražavamo otkuda ovo u Hrvatskoj. OVO SE RADILO POGREŠNO RADI NAVODNE "POMIRBE - POMIRENJA" NARODA.UNUTAR ISTOG NACIONALNOG KORPUSA.

@Hashima Sto dalje od BiH. Vrate EU su sirom otvorena @Katie thx, znam ... ja sam se pokajao sto sam se vratio ... vec sam bio u "boljem zivotu" ... sad idemo ponovo. Karta u jednom pravcu .. :)

Sretno, Crni. I Hashi bi. Od ljubavi se ne zivi.

@Chedo iza ustaša je stajala mašinerija u formi organizirane države i ustrojene vojske u formi NDH i oni su bili u poziciji da naprave veće zločine od četnika, I U TOME JE RAZLIKA, ali je notorna činjenica da je "naš" četnički pokret izrastao u zločinački i kolaboracionistički pokret, i ako na početku nije bilo tako zamišljeno, jer su se trebali boriti protiv Nijemaca, ali su oni postali njihovi saveznici. To što su četnici spasili par američkih pilota ne mjenja stvar bitno, jer su se oni ponašali oportunistički, poput hijena.

Odmah se moze na fizionomiji ovog skolarca vidjet da je tup ko malj, gledaj glave kako ide, odjednom osjecena isto mu je neko odbio tokmakom

@Chedo četnicu su krenuli, u početku rata, zajedno sa partizanima u borbu protiv Nijemaca, ali se ta njihova borba brzo izjalovila i počeli su aktivno sarađivati sa okupatorima. Tačno je da su bili manje organizovani tj. bili su više "decentralizovani", ali je bit pokreta, nažalost, izdajnička i zločinačka. Od 1943. godine i Britanci su im otkazali podršku, jer su njihovi obavještajci na terenu vidjeli da oni sarađuju sa Nijemcima. Ovo su Britanci uradili teška srca, jer nisu voljeli titove partizane zbog ideoloških razloga, jer se radilo o komunistima, ali sve jedno podržali su ih nakon '43. jer su se jedino oni borili protiv Nijemaca. Od 1943. pa do kraja rata, veliki broj četnika uz amnestiju prelazi u partizane. Naveći ih je broj prešlo u partizane u 1944. godini nakon iskrcavanja saveznika u Normandiji, jer su vidjeki da njihovi saveznici Nijemci i drugi gube rat. To je sva istina, a ovo drugo naklapaju potomci četničkog pokreta i neki kvazi istoručari.

"Четници и усташе нису исто. Усташе су злочинци, фашисти, а четници краљева војска, једина легитимна." potvrda mog prethodnog komentara: "deklarisani fasist "osudjuje" ko fol nekakve fasiste ali samo zato sto nisu iz njegovog tora"

Pametno black...i ja sam to davnih dana shvatio, da ovdje normalan čovjek ne može tražiti i pronaći sreću, zato što dalje od ovog džubrovnika zvani "Balkan"...Da se razumijemo ja Bosnu i svoj rodni kraj volim ali ne volim ove ljude ovdje i organski ih ne podnosim, zadojeni prošlošću neobazrivi prema budućnosti, OVDJE NITI JE DOBRO NITI IDE NA BOLJE !!!

@cedo prvo izgleda da nisi sposoban ni komentar od dvije recenice da procitas a da ne pokusas da izvrnes poentu napisanog a drugo "муслимани су били већински у тој војсци." sto se tice vasih legendi i mitova braca grim su amateri za vas

Chedo, Chedo imaš vrlo pojednostavljen pogled na sve to. Ali ako baš hoćeš jednostavno: Ustaše i "NAŠI" četnici su bili kvinsliški profašistički pokreti sa razlikom što su ustaše imale iza sebe državni zločinački aparat pa su pobili više civila. I prestani, tako ti Boga, niko ne spori da je ovo u Hrvatskoj katastrofa, prije svega za hrvatsko društvo i državu, jer Srba je, od prijašnjih 550 000 ( popis 1991.) ostalo još 180 000 ( popis 2011.). ALI SADA TU ČETNIKE PRIKAZIVATI KAO NEKE ANTIFAŠISTE NIJE NIŠTA MANJE PERVERZNO OD OVIH NACISTIČKIH POZDRAVA I POVIKA U KNINU. ISTA JE TO ZLOČINAČKA MATRICA. Prestanimo se sada i mi brukati i pustimo da se, ako to baš žele, drugi blamiraju veličajući svoju zločinačku prošlost.

@Chedo to nije tačno. Njemci su iza rata prihvatili i govorili da su zločine počinili pripadnici SS, a da pripadnici Wehrmacht-a ( regularna regrutna vojska) to nije činila. To su prihvatili tek nekih 20 godina iza rata da je Wehrmacht bio umješan u zločine velikih razmjera naročito na istoku. Mihajlović je komandovao ogromnom većinom četničkih formacija. Postoji veliki broj istorijskih dokumenata. Tako u jednom od njih četnički komandant za C. Goru se u pismu ( izvještaju) hvali sa velikim brojem ( 10 000 ) pobijenih civila u opštinama Bijelo Polje. je nakon izvršenog pokolja u okolini Bijelog Polja podneo Mihailoviću izveštaj u kome kaže: „Akcija na desnoj obali Lima u srezu Bjelopoljskom završena je. Ista je izvedena tačno po utvrđenom planu. Rezultat ove borbe je: 1) Potpuno su uništena sledeća muslimanska sela (Sekcije: Plevlje, Sjenica, Peć i Kolašin): Voljevac, Gubovača, Radijelja, Ušanovići, Presečenik, Batuiiće, Donji Vlah (sekcija Plevlje), Mirovići, Solja ....

Nakon pokolja u bjelopoljskom kraju, usledio je pokolj u pljevaljskom, fočanskom i čajničkom kraju, najmasovniji ratni zločin etničkog čišćenja koji su počinile četničke formacije tokom drugog svetskog rata. U ovoj operaciji uništenja, izvedenoj početkom februara 1943. godine, ubijeno je više hiljada žitelja Pljevaljskog, Čajničkog i Fočanskog kraja. Prema četničkom izveštaju, ubijeno je oko 9.200 muslimana od čega oko 1.200 muškaraca i do 8.000 žena, staraca i dece.

Dakle, još jednom: Komandant za C Goru, Pavle Đurišić nakon izvršenog pokolja u okolini Bijelog Polja podneo Mihailoviću izveštaj u kome kaže: „Akcija na desnoj obali Lima u srezu Bjelopoljskom završena je. Ista je izvedena tačno po utvrđenom planu. Rezultat ove borbe je: 1) Potpuno su uništena sledeća muslimanska sela (Sekcije: Plevlje, Sjenica, Peć i Kolašin): Voljevac, Gubovača, Radijelja, Ušanovići, Presečenik, Batuiiće, Donji Vlah (sekcija Plevlje), Mirovići, Solja, Radojeva Glava, Mediše, Pobretiće, Donja Kostenica, Stablo, Vrh, Zminjac, Sipovice, Negobratina, Osmanbegovo selo, Dupljaci, Jasen, Koštice, Kaševar, Ivanje, Godijevo, Žilići, Gornja Crnca, Gornji Radulići, Vrba, Crhalja, Kradenik, Sipanje, Ličine (Sekcija Sjenica—Peć) Ukupno 33 sela.

BOGA TI, PUSTI SE ČETNIKA. Srbi baštine dvoj dio antifašističke borbe kroz partizanski pokret, koliko god on u nekim segmentima bio nakaradan, naročito nakon rata.

sagitarius izvini a zasto vas uefa kaznjava zbog ZDS, ne seri ustasa

Točno gospodine.UEFA je izrekla kaznu hrvatskom reprezentativcu radi povika ZDS, radi toga što prosrpska hrvatska politika nije objasnila o čemu se radi, nego su se srbadija i njihovi lobisti kao i prodane duše u Hrvatskoj takmičili tko će oštrije to osuditi, pa je i logično da je to osuđeno. No uvjeravam vas da je pitanje promjene vlasti u Hrvatskoj kada će se dobiti zvanično državno priopčenje o ovoj stvari. Kukasti križ na stadionu osuđuju i svi Hrvati stoga, dajte konačno smirite te vaše uvrjede na osobnoj razini i malo porazmislite o ovome što vam govorim. Lijep dan.

sagitarius sta je ovo objasni mi...posto se svi vucete na to za poglavnika i dom spremni...vidi ovu kolajnu.. http://i47.tinypic.com/1znl6rm.jpg evo ti film o ustasama, imas li obraza stati na stranu ustasa nakon ovoga https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj2MunlvvX4 sta kaze svabo karheinz deschner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts1QuCH3r8o#t=98

Nitko ne kaže za poglavnika i zds, to je bilo u NDH-i.ZDS sam za sebe je starohrvatski pozdrav. Rat je iznjedrio mnoge ružne stvari, ali današnjoj Hrvatskoj lijepiti te ustaške etikete niti je točno niti je korektno. Završavajući sa vama ovu raspravu, uz pripomenu da nemam vremena niti mislim da vi to zaslužujete osobno da se dalje diskutira, radi ostalih prisutnih na portalu skrenuo bih vam još jednom pažnju da će mnogi poput vas pokušavati uzaludno da bace mrlju na veliku pobjedu hrvatskog naroda koju slavimo kroz 20. obljetnicu Oluje. Hvala vam na čestitci.

Nitko ne govori ništa za oluju već za ove divljake, izgledaju kao stoka zatvorena u podrumima koja vidi svijetlo dana jednom u godinu dana i to kad dođe u Knin, ne djeluju uopće socijalizirani za normalan život. Bolje da su za školu spremni, 99% ovih se ne zna ni potpisati.

igi objasni http://s4.postimg.org/g9hktiood/djurisichi4.jpg

5 Korpus baby da i sta sa tim oces ja da ti nabrojim jos srpski Kolaboracinista...

5 Korpus baby i da dodam Pavle dolazi iz crne gore

5 Korpus baby pretrazi malo o muslimanima u cetnicima,

takodje objasni: http://s1.postimg.org/cb46lqavj/d09d1c24xf4.jpg http://s4.postimg.org/pbkx9c19p/cetniksgroup.jpg http://s1.postimg.org/pobx2353j/file0001or8.jpg http://s4.postimg.org/t7fvmcsq5/file0015yk8.jpg http://s1.postimg.org/4rovowlu7/file0017lk6.jpg http://s4.postimg.org/k8gmhu92l/file0006ad9.jpg http://s4.postimg.org/6x69azgj1/file0030fa1.jpg http://s4.postimg.org/6j9ip4lt9/file0031vo3.jpg http://s4.postimg.org/fsgaczk31/file0035zm7.jpg http://s3.postimg.org/d901jvvnn/file0018eu4.jpg http://s3.postimg.org/gfu816077/file0014nm3.jpg evo malo za tvoje obrazovanje mada mislim da je prekasno: http://www.znaci.net/00001/9_1.htm

takodje objasni mi sljedece: http://s4.postimg.org/6ptslz5nw/Report_Djurisic.jpg http://s3.postimg.org/6jbyohds3/Drazas_Instrukcije.jpg http://s4.postimg.org/4czab1r3h/kalabic.jpg http://s4.postimg.org/6rvr97wq5/mihajlovic.jpg

WAR CRIMES 41. Through numerous circulars, communications, radiograms, directions sent to all his commanders, as well as to some commanders in particular cases, 'beginning in the Autumn of 1941, Mihailović issued strict orders to annihilate mercilessly all fighters of the National Liberation Army and Partisan Detachments, captured or wounded fighters, all followers of the National Liberation Movement, and everybody who helped in any way the National Liberation Army and Partisan Detachments, calling all adherents of the National Liberation Army in his messages, circulars and directions: communists, Bolsheviks, Ustaša-Bolshevik bands, etc. 42. Mihailović also issued orders to his commanders to annihilate the Moslems (whom he called Turks) and the Croats (whom he identified with the UstaŠas). 43. Mihailović introduced the method of killing men withour trial 'and without any investigation of guilt. Death sentences were pronounced by him and he bestowed this right on all his commanders of corps, brigades and battalions. Those who were sentenced to death were placed under the letter »Z«. 44. For the execution of death sentences by the method of the letter »Z« (the letter »Z« is the first letter of the word »zaklati«, which means to cut the throat of, and the persons placed under this letter were to be murdered), Mihailović gave instructions that every one of his brigades should form »Black Threes« who worked as conspirators. By Mihailović's instructions the commanders of brigades chose bloodthirsty men for the »Black Threes«, who, when entering the »Black Threes«, agreed to carry out every order without mercy, while in the case of non-execution of orders they were to be shot. Mihailović, what is more, gave the »Black Threes« instructions how to cut throats. The Chief of the Četnik »Black Threes« was Mihaalovic himself. 45. Besides his orders to the »Black Threes«, Mihailović fre quently issued orders that every commander of the Corps should organize flying brigades whose exclusive task was to clear their terrain of Partisans (or as he says communists) and their sympa thisers and all other persons who did not agree with his organization — and not to enter into any conflicts with the invader. 55 46. In accordance with Mihailović's orders, his commanders, his corps and brigades, his »Black Threes« and flying brigades perpetrated in the course of the war and occupation numerous war crimes in all parts of Yugoslavia, in Serbia, Montenegro, Sandžak, Bosnia, Hercegovina, Croatia (especially in Dalmatia and Lika) and in Slovenia; thus: In November 1941, the Četniks shot in the village of Brajići (Takovo District) at the place called Drenovi Vrh, some 500 captured Partisans and adherents of the Liberation struggle. The place where the Partisans were shot is not far from Ravna Gora where Mihai-lović's HQ were situated. On the night of November 13—14, 1941, the Četnik commander Jovan Škava, by order of Mihailović, handed over about 365 Partisans to the Germans in the village of Slovac (near Valjevo). The Germans took them to Valjevo and shot them at a place called Krušik, near the latter town. In the beginning of November 1941, at a place called Ridovi, in the vicinity of Kosjerić, Mihadlovics commander Ajdačić slaughtered 13 Partisan followers including Jelena Subić-Gmizović and Mileva Kosovac, women teachers, whom the Cetniks violated, and mutilated with red hot irons before murdering. On November 4, 1941, near Ravna Gora, the cetniks killed about 30 Partisans, who were captured by a ruse. This number included 18 girls, who had been sent to Užice as nurses. In December 1941, at Čačak, Mihailović's Cetniks together with the Germans shot 80 adherents of the National Liberation Movement at one time. In December 1941 in the Požega District, the mixed German-Četnik corps on one occasion sentenced to death 12 Partisan adherents. In December 1941 and during January 1942 the Cetniks slaughtered over 2000 Moslems — men, women and children from the outskirts of Foča, Čajniče and Goražde. These slaughters were perpetrated on the bridges across the Drina at Foča and Goražde. During the month of December 1941 and in the course of the whole of 1942, Mihailović's "legalized'" Cetniks arrested and handed over to the Germans in various parts of Serbia thousands of Partisan followers who were shot by the Germans in the camps at Banjica, šabac, Niš, Užice, Čačak and elsewhere, while in addition to this, the Cetniks themselves killed thousands of Partisan followers, plundered many villages, flogged thousands of men, and violated a large number of women and girls from Partisan families. 56 On April 1, 1942, the Četniks of Rade Radić killed 20 wounded Partisans at Jošavka among whom was Dr. Mladen Stojanović, who was seriously wounded. In April 1942, the Četniks of Lazar Tešanović and Rade Radić, (who placed themselves under the command of Mihailović's officer Captain Rašić) killed "0 wounded Partisans. Towards the end of April 1942, Spasoje Dakić, commander of Mihailović's battalion in East Bosnia, killed the British major Terence Atherton and one of his radio telegraphists — a British sergeant. In June 1942, Mihailović's Četniks burned down the hospital with ten seriously wounded Partisans, near Gacko in the village of Izgori. In June 1942, Mihailović's detachment under the command of Captain Vladimir Đukić, took out of prison at Nikšić 25 followers of the National Liberation Movement and, together with the Italians, shot them. In August 1942, Minailović's commander Baćović killed Rade Bravica, judge, Toma Galep, Jova Ljubibratić, Budimir Ukropina and Tasa Kosović, followers of the National Liberation Movement. In August 1942, Mihailović's Četniks under the command of Petar Baćović, during the capture of FoČa, slaughtered there and in a group of villages, called Bukovica, about 100 Moslems, among whom were about 300 women, children and old men. In August 1942, in the district of Ustikolina and Jahorina (East Bosnia) Mihailović's Četniks, under the command of Zaharije Ostojić and Petar Baćović, slaughtered about 2.500 persons of Moslem faith and burned down the villages. In September 1942, at Makarska, the Četniks of Petar Baćović killed 900 Croats, skinned alive several catholic priests, and burnt. down 17 villages. In October 1942, the Četniks of Petar Baćović, together with the Italians who were under the command of Lt. Vidiak, killed about 2.500 Moslems and Croats in the environs of Prozor. Among them were women, children and old men. They also burnt a large number of vilages. In October 1942, in the villages of Gata, Niklica and Čislo (all villages af Dalmatia), the Četniks of Petar Baćović, together with the Italians, killed 109 Croats who were sympathizers of the National Liberation Movement, In autumn 1942, at Drežnica (Hercegovina), the Četniks from the environs of Gacko, while moving towards Prozor, slaughtered 100 persons of the Moslem faith. 57 In December 1942, in the village of Brainci (Mrkaić — East Bosnia) and in the neighbouring villages, the Cetniks of Mihailović's commander Rajko Celonja, killed 160 peasants and burned down the village of Brainci and several other villages. Among the killed were women and children. In January 1943, Mihailović's Cetniks killed Father Isaković and 18 other followers of the Partisans in the village of Banja (near Arandelovac). In January 1943, Major Cvetić slaughtered 16 captured Partisans in the district of Užice. In January 1943, under the command of Komarčević, Mihai-lović's Cetniks slaughtered 72 Partisan sympathizers in the Posava District. In January 1943, the Cetniks of Pavle Durišić killed about 400 men and about 1.000 women and childern of Moslem faith in the Bijelo Polje District. In February 1943, the Cetniks under the command of Zaharije Ostojić, Petar Baćović, Pavle Đurišić, Vojislav Lukačević, Vuk Kalai-tović and others slaughtered 1.200 men, and 8.000 old men, women and children in the districts of Plevije, Čajniče and Foča. They looted and burned down about 2.000 houses at the same time. In the middle of July 1943, in the village of Cikoti (East Bosnia) the Cetniks discovered 80 wounded men of the First Proletarian Division. They took their arms, and the following day brought the Germans who killed and then burned them. In July 1943, at Bišina (Birač), the Cetniks discovered 120 wounded men of the First and Second Proletarian Brigades and handed them over to the Germans who shot them. In December 1943, at Kolašin, the Cetnik commander Major Petričević shot 28 captured Partisans and 6 peasants, Partisan followers. In December 1943, in the village of Selevac (Belgrade District) the Četnik commander Zivan Lazović murdered 15 peasants, Partisan followers. In December 1943, the Cetniks slaughtered 137 captured Partisans in the environs of Bosansko Grahovo. In December 1943, the Cetniks slaughtered 28 captured Partisans in the village of Tičevo near Drvar . In December 1943, at Zeta (Montenegro), the Cetniks slaughtered 8 peasant-delegates at the First Antifascist Assembly of Montenegro. .

58 In December 1943, the Četniks of Nikola Kalabić slaughtered 24 peasants, Partisan followers, in the village of Kopljari (near Aran- delovac). In December 1943, the Cetniks of Vuk Kalaitović shot 18 Partisan followers in the Sjenica District (Sandžak). In December 1943, in the village of Vranjić (Posava District, Belgrade County), the Cetniks, under the command of Lt. Colonel Miodrag Palošević and Major Sveta Trifkovic, slaughtered 72 persons, among whom were one child of two years, another of three months. They castrated one of the victims. Besides this they plundered large number of peasant homes. From July 1941, to March 1943, Mihailović's Cetniks, under the command of Pavle Durišić, sentenced to death and shot about a thousand Montenegrin Partisans and peasants, because they participated in the Liberation uprising in Montenegro. On April 29, 1944, the Četnik detachments of Captain Zivojin Lazović, Major Svetislav Trifkovic, Nikola Kalabić, Dragutin Bojović, Sveta Bogićević, Radovan Dokmanović and Sveta Radićević, in the village of Drugovac (Podunava District — Belgrade County) slaughtered 73 persons among whom were 9 women. On that occasion 37 other persons were ill-treated and 220 houses were looted and then burned down. In April 1944, the Cetniks slaughtered 8 Partisan sympathizers near Bajina Bašta. In May 1944, the Cetniks of Dragutin Keserović discovered a Partisan hospital at Jastrebac, and shot some 24 wounded men and 4 nurses there. In May 1944, cetniks from Majevica discovered a Partisan hospital in Semberia and killed about 300 seriously wounded. In the summer of 1944, the Cetniks in the village of Balinovići burned alive Živan Durdević, a peasant from Balinovići, in the presence of 20 men, and then killed his son. In the beginning of August 1944, Dušam Radović, known as Kondor, commander of Mihailović's Zlatibor Corps, murdered two American airmen of French origin, who were forced to land by parachute, near the Lim river. In August 1944, the Četnik detachment of Sveta Bogićević caught Sava Sremčević, Konstantin Vojinović, Ilija Radojević and Ilija Jakovljević, in the village of Sepci (Kragujevac District), and, after cruelly torturing them in order to force them to admit their collaboration with the Partisans, slaughtered all four of them. 59 47. The crimes enumerated are only a small part of the crimes-which Mihailović's Četniks committed in all parts of Yugoslavia in compliance with his orders and instructions. In addition, tens of thousands of men were tortured and flogged by Četniks, while in Montenegro a special system of flogging was introduced, utilising the »rogalj« (a kind of stake). Mihailović's commanders sent lists of the Partisan followers to the invaders and quislings on the basis of which they were arrested and shot. Mihailović's Belgrade organization especially closely collaborated with the Special Police in the annihilation of the Partisan followers in Belgrade.

5 Korpus baby momcino oces da ti stavim na stotine slika muslimana u cetnicima i ustasama...

http://skr.rs/R17 http://skr.rs/R13

i sta mislis da bi dokazao tim slikama? ja ni ne pokusavam da pobijem cinjenicu da je bilo muslimana u ustasama pa i u cetnicima medjutim fasisti su fasisti. najsvjeziji dokaz je izdajnik abdic i njegovi koji su se okrenuli protiv sopstvenog naroda u korist fasista. sta bi ti tacno meni da dokazujes?

5 Korpus baby pa poceo si mi o srpskim izdajnicima, pa reko da pokazem da je bilo i na svim stranama...

da ali ste vi jedini koji od fasista "napravili" antifasiste lol